Posts by days of future passed

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What Made You Decide To Finally Leave The Organization?

by minimus in

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was there one certain event or was it more a cumulative thing?.

days of future passed

I was raised in "The Truth" from 5 years onward. My life was full of depression over a God that seemed to find only flaws in me. But because I was told that this was "The Truth" I pretty much lived in the mental cage the WT constructed. Believing that they would never lie (anointed) I just trudged dejectedly in life.

I saw the Dateline program - it was disturbing. I called my BIL who was an elder. He said "you don't think Holy Spirit would allow that do you?" Of course not I thought. But I didn't forget it. A bookstudy elder said that it was ok to not tell the truth under persecution - as in lie. That bothered me, doesn't god hate liars?

I lived with my younger sister for many years and put up with her unkind remarks and put downs because I wanted to help her. It was only at the end, did I find that she counted on me believing she was always telling the truth. She also stole money from me too. I had to force her to pay me back.

Her bad example helped out, when my older sister called and explained about a pedophile that had moved into their congregation and how it was covered over. Combined with the dateline program, the encouragement to lie and my JW sister being a jerk, I thought if my sister could do that to me, why not an organization?

Still, you have to find evidence that it just isn't ignorance or weakness on the part of the leaders. That is when I really read the bible and compared it to the literature. That is when I knew that they knew they were wrong. Not a mistake but purposeful lying and manipulation. Gone.

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Be extra careful if you choose to drive tonight.

by The Real Edward Gentry in

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lots of people are drinking heavily and letting their wives drive..

days of future passed

Well he's saying be extra careful tonight because the wives are driving. So the wives are what you have to watch out for, not the drunken men.

............................... In reality, the wives that are driving the men home, have to watch out for all the drunks and the generally bad drivers. Be careful wives!

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Why do Jehovah`s Witnesses believe everything will be Hunky Dory after Armageddon ? I have news for them.

by smiddy3 in

they seem to think that all they will do is enjoy a carefree life with little or no concerns problems or worries whereas nothing could be further from the truth... according to the bible.. without trying to speculate on these concerns or problems during this one thousand year reign of christ jesus ,lets hear what the bible has to say about the end of his thousand year reign.. rev.20:7-10 satan is to be let out of his prison {as if he hasn`t done enough damage in 6000 years of roaming about in the earth at the same time fraternizing with jesus and jehovah in heaven} i digress.. and the reason he is let out of prison ,lo and behold ,is to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth gog and magog to gather them together for the war.

{ here we go again ,armageddon didn`t solve anything we have to go through another one.

} 1000 years later.. now get this it`s not just some isolated little skirmish with a few hundred or even a few thousand dissenters ,as the bible states they number the sands of the seashore and they advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp {not a nation but a camp} of the holy ones.and the beloved city.. with that description it would seem the holy ones are in the minority and the opposes apparently were spread over all the earth.. so that description of the bible to me about jc 1000 rule does not appear to be one of living in a paradise , that is not on the agenda until after jesus christ 1000 year reign and only if you are lucky enough to survive another test/war of your loyalty after all you have gone through previously.. i wonder if this realization is one of the reasons why so many now are claiming to be of the anointed because as one of the other sheep you have to pass another test after the 1000 years of christ jesus rule whereas of one of the anointed on death now you go straight to heaven ..

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It is hard enough for some JW's to think about getting through the Great Tribulation. Afraid of making one tiny mistake that will cost them their everlasting life.... Why would they even want to think about Satan running around later and having to face another test?

Really the injustice of it all. Adam and Eve dead at 900 plus years, Satan still going strong after 7,000 years. The "murderer" of human kind gets to kill some more and more until God is through using him to "test" his humans. Ooops I thought god doesn't do stuff like that.

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Wife came home upset ...

by The Fall Guy in

... because she'd stepped into some newly laid concrete.. i said to her, "don't be too hard on yourself.

".

days of future passed

A sandwich walked into a bar and ordered a whisky. I'm sorry said the bartender, we don't serve lunch here.

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In The Beginning ... There Was Shunning

by days of future passed in

yes indeed, shunning began in eden.

when adam and eve sinned against god, god pronounced a curse on them, handed them some skins for clothes and kicked them out of the house.

there isn't any conversation between god and them after this.. he did converse with cain, but that also ended shortly after he killed his brother.. on the other hand the one that started it all, satan, visited jehovah at his house.

days of future passed

Yes indeed, shunning began in Eden. When Adam and Eve sinned against God, God pronounced a curse on them, handed them some skins for clothes and kicked them out of the house. There isn't any conversation between God and them after this.

He did converse with Cain, but that also ended shortly after he killed his brother.

On the other hand the one that started it all, Satan, visited Jehovah at his house. Job 1:6 says that when the sons of the true god entered to take their station before Jehovah, and even Satan proceeded to enter right among them. So God let him come in the house. God was even the first to speak to him! This goes against 2 john 10,11 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. 11 For he that says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works. (haha since he is against God, so is he against Christ)

Ooo what is the result of God speaking to an apostate? Satan gets under his skin and God starts to brag about Job. Too bad for Job, because of God's pride, his children die and he gets a terrible disease. Is this the end of it? No. Later his own Son is used to confirm God's pride in himself that he's worthy of all worship by having Jesus die too.

Of course, Jesus also erred because he talked with Satan too. But that's ok, God will eventually get rid of Satan, but in the mean time, he's making the rest of his servants suffer by throwing him down to the earth. To show that his servants reaaaaallllly love him. Take that, Satan the Apostate!

Ahh reading the comments under a video about shunning just got me going. You get the trolls, the slightly crazy devout JW's, the really crazy ones and the sincere confused jw's. So it got me thinking about it all.

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Just a story I found of how one family left.

by days of future passed in

while wandering on youtube, i came across a user named trueface.

perhaps you have already watched it.

i liked it because they describe their thoughts on how events and research led them to leave the wt.

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While wandering on Youtube, I came across a user named Trueface. Perhaps you have already watched it. I liked it because they describe their thoughts on how events and research led them to leave the WT. How I wish some of my family members were this reasonable so they could leave too.

https://youtu.be/NQIP2AB_OoY

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My final topic

by pomo6780 in

i have noted that the irritable part of me got the better of me when posting about j f rutherford.

i acknowledge that a few on here have pointed out flaws in my reasoning and the way i reason.

and i agree with them.

days of future passed

I put a "like" on your post because you are a great joke. I laugh every time I read your posts. You remind me of an English actor doing vaudeville who's hating it.

So dramatic and over blown. A legend in your own mind.

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Very Lost

by Jrjw in

hi i've been a jw for 12 years and got married 2 years ago.

i'm now separated.

my husband hid from me that he suffered from depression, extreme anxiety issues and a personality disorder.

days of future passed

Your daughter may be affected in her future when she decides to marry. She may seek out the same type of man unconsciously and end up the same way. Or she may decide not to marry at all.

The degree to which he has gone to make your life miserable, shows that he is a very manipulative person. He is well aware of what he is doing. That type of person is toxic. They make you doubt yourself as well as blame you for everything. That song fits them "if your lips are moving, you are lying"

Is there relatives you could move away to?

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Inside Story Logo

by MrHappy in

this may have been covered before but have you noticed the logo design of the "inside story" on this months video the 143rd gilead graduation.

it appears as a pyramid containing the masonic symbol of the compass and square, with this reflected below the text.

the art pieces on the shelf are also interesting and maybe someone has some thoughts on these.

days of future passed

I can see what Mr. Happy saw. But there are a variety of reasons why they chose that design.

1. It is simply lines that are easy to draw and looks like other designs the artist saw (it may not even be an "artist" that made the design)

2. A secret pimo that is having the last laugh.

3. WT likes to "borrow" designs and it could be someone else's.

If you join the art together, it also looks like a quilt design lol.

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Very Lost

by Jrjw in

hi i've been a jw for 12 years and got married 2 years ago.

i'm now separated.

my husband hid from me that he suffered from depression, extreme anxiety issues and a personality disorder.

days of future passed

Hi. You probably haven't read anything from the past, that the WT has published about abusive marriages.

Every story I remember was -

Woman becomes a JW and is treated badly by the worldly husband and stays with him until 20 years go by and he accepts the truth.

Woman is married to a JW man and she feels abandoned and lonely. She is counseled to try harder to make him happy because it is her fault. Only then, will her husband treat her right.

In both cases, the example that the WT presents, is that the woman should suffer spousal abuse for the truth. Whether it is because they are worldly or a JW.

The stories may not be true, but that is message the WT wants all women to accept.

It doesn't sound like either of you is having a relationship that is healthy. He needs counseling and maybe medicine - it would probably do him good to escape the WT because it's doctrines can increase feelings of worthlessness and hopelessness. Counseling can also benefit you. I'm sorry for both of you being in that religion.